CH Lancer Evo 8/9 Turbo Build 4G69T
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XxOLIVERxX
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LWNSLW said:
i was thinkin of going this way.. but im having trouble finding an evo head with everything attached..
also how would the evo ecu work since it will have a bigger displament.. (just off the top of my head to me that says not enuff air and fuel be going into the cylinders) either way i go it will probally end up around the same cost cuz the ecu will cost alot for the current set up, if an evo ecu would be used that would be great!
XxOLIVERxX
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my ecu is a complete *top bloke* from what iv heard.. gives engine lights and errors, locks throttle body and all sorts.. :? it can be reflashed but im not sure how far you can go with it
tryg
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reflashing only works within the parameters of the current sensor allowances and injector/fuel pump ability....
But, you might be able to re-write new tables for the ECU, if you change out all the necessary equipment that will stifle your new kit...
Res is correct, I would just get an off the shelf, easily modified EMS, especially one that the majority of dyno/car tuner businesses recommend...
But, you might be able to re-write new tables for the ECU, if you change out all the necessary equipment that will stifle your new kit...
Res is correct, I would just get an off the shelf, easily modified EMS, especially one that the majority of dyno/car tuner businesses recommend...
XxOLIVERxX
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yeahh if i go full standalone EMS i will more than likely use the haltech ecu that RPW specilazies in
Ok guys please stop with the getting an aftermarket ecu for a late model evo.
1. have u been to evolutionoz.net and had a good 5+hr search on there??? U will be able to find 99% of ur parts there.
2. late model evo ecus ct9a onwards are completely reprogrammable, once they are flashed they are just as good if not better than a aftermarket ecu. The stock ct9a ecu has launch control, no lift to shift, shutter box and turbo timer all on board waiting to be unlocked.
3. As for using the evo topend it is 100% bolt on mod and everything will work as it should. U may have to get a auto elect to wire up the dash and a few other things but thats not a major thing. Also u dont want to get a dohc mivec head as they are freaking expensive. I think a little more research is need before u go buying more parts mate.
1. have u been to evolutionoz.net and had a good 5+hr search on there??? U will be able to find 99% of ur parts there.
2. late model evo ecus ct9a onwards are completely reprogrammable, once they are flashed they are just as good if not better than a aftermarket ecu. The stock ct9a ecu has launch control, no lift to shift, shutter box and turbo timer all on board waiting to be unlocked.
3. As for using the evo topend it is 100% bolt on mod and everything will work as it should. U may have to get a auto elect to wire up the dash and a few other things but thats not a major thing. Also u dont want to get a dohc mivec head as they are freaking expensive. I think a little more research is need before u go buying more parts mate.
XxOLIVERxX
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okay thanks alot man 
i see someone knows there sh*t :thumbup: il look into the head and ecu stuff
and yeah im buying an evo 8 16G turbo off evolutionoz right now
i see someone knows there sh*t :thumbup: il look into the head and ecu stuff and yeah im buying an evo 8 16G turbo off evolutionoz right now
XxOLIVERxX
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wait a minute... you saying a stock evo 7-9 ecu is FULLY reprogrammable.. :think:
lets say i do the build using the stock 4G69 head and the evo ecu and maf etc and get it tuned it will run??
or does it HAVE to use the DOHC head to work? cuz i can see it going ahead that way but i doubt il be able to find a evo head with everything at a reasonable price.. :thumbdown:
lets say i do the build using the stock 4G69 head and the evo ecu and maf etc and get it tuned it will run??
or does it HAVE to use the DOHC head to work? cuz i can see it going ahead that way but i doubt il be able to find a evo head with everything at a reasonable price.. :thumbdown:
XxOLIVERxX said:okay thanks alot man
and yeah im buying an evo 8 16G turbo off evolutionoz right now
What did you pay for the turbo if you dont mind me asking???
Im trying to find a decently priced evo 9 turbo for my evo 7 gta
U have to use the dohc head for the ct9a ecu to work mate. I have seen quite a few complete engines with intake and zaust mani's around... Maybe just buy a complete engine and use that??? Or you could buy a evo 4 front cut (bout 3k) and use the engine, ecu and loom out off that and sell all the other stuff (u will make a fair amount of cash back from the front cut)
XxOLIVERxX
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$200 shipped mate for stock evo 8 16 with all the lines etc.. i wish i cud buy a half cut/ complete engine but its just too out of my reach.. i get paid minimal wages and i was going to do it as stated in my first post cuz its the most cost effective method(i think anyway)
il do the head swap if i can find one for a good price, cuz this way i can avoid buying a $1500 ecu. so in the end it will work out around the same cost
but half cut or full engine isnt gonna happen.
il do the head swap if i can find one for a good price, cuz this way i can avoid buying a $1500 ecu. so in the end it will work out around the same cost
but half cut or full engine isnt gonna happen.
to be hounest like i said above, u really should just hold off for a year or so and buy a proper evo mate.
Can u drive manual or only auto cause auto evo 7 gta's are dirt cheap and very nice to drive... Also if u find one in nsw in the sydney newcastle area ill even go and have a look at it for u. Getting cars transported over to wa is like 500 bucks so not that expensive. As for insurance well u just do what u can. But throwing what u think is going to 5k to turbo your car, will blow out to 10 maybe 15k before u know it. Then it might last 12months and might blow up.... Also think of the resale value of your car right now and then think about what u would get for it when time comes to sell and buy a real awd evo if you are still interested!
Also with the evo you will get alot more safety features that your es dont like BREMBO brakes for starters, ayc, acd, abs and awd...
just my 2c mate, just giving the best advise i can cause i have been there and done all this before...
Can u drive manual or only auto cause auto evo 7 gta's are dirt cheap and very nice to drive... Also if u find one in nsw in the sydney newcastle area ill even go and have a look at it for u. Getting cars transported over to wa is like 500 bucks so not that expensive. As for insurance well u just do what u can. But throwing what u think is going to 5k to turbo your car, will blow out to 10 maybe 15k before u know it. Then it might last 12months and might blow up.... Also think of the resale value of your car right now and then think about what u would get for it when time comes to sell and buy a real awd evo if you are still interested!
Also with the evo you will get alot more safety features that your es dont like BREMBO brakes for starters, ayc, acd, abs and awd...
just my 2c mate, just giving the best advise i can cause i have been there and done all this before...
XxOLIVERxX
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yeahh i see your reasoning man.. this cars a manual. deffo wouldnt want to go to auto.
the thing that is making me want to do this is it will be unique, fast and affordable.iv been getting a few insurances quotes listing the mods il be doing(turbo,full exhaust cold air intake rims etc) and with just car i can get it for 2000 a year. for an 2003 evo 8 stock its at least 4K. theres no way i can afford that and even if i could i wouldnt pay it. its just throwing money away.
from my workings out the cost for parts alone no more than 2.5k.
the tuning is the only thing holding me back! and driving the price up..
im not sure if i posts this b4 but the car only cost me $5000.. so when all this is done lets say 5k total cost. 10 grand. this car sells for around $14,000 on carsales with around the same K's and mild mods i wont be loosing out by much at all when its time to sell up...
the thing that is making me want to do this is it will be unique, fast and affordable.iv been getting a few insurances quotes listing the mods il be doing(turbo,full exhaust cold air intake rims etc) and with just car i can get it for 2000 a year. for an 2003 evo 8 stock its at least 4K. theres no way i can afford that and even if i could i wouldnt pay it. its just throwing money away.
from my workings out the cost for parts alone no more than 2.5k.
the tuning is the only thing holding me back! and driving the price up..
im not sure if i posts this b4 but the car only cost me $5000.. so when all this is done lets say 5k total cost. 10 grand. this car sells for around $14,000 on carsales with around the same K's and mild mods i wont be loosing out by much at all when its time to sell up...
Team of Unique lancers once I'm done with my FR lancer turbo conversion yo
Though with the re-sale price, it'll depreciate a lot quicker... since there is already a new series out with some down to already 15k~ Once you've decided you'ev had enough with the CH (say 4-5years) then the price would be down to <10k possibly around 8k. That's without the turbo. Add the turbo you'll only draw hoon P platers, because L platers parents will not let them buy it, and your out of the first car area cause of the turbo, most people would just want a stock car with maybe a stereo.
Though with the re-sale price, it'll depreciate a lot quicker... since there is already a new series out with some down to already 15k~ Once you've decided you'ev had enough with the CH (say 4-5years) then the price would be down to <10k possibly around 8k. That's without the turbo. Add the turbo you'll only draw hoon P platers, because L platers parents will not let them buy it, and your out of the first car area cause of the turbo, most people would just want a stock car with maybe a stereo.
tryg
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now, maybe someone can chime in here again; The RRM kit, for $4500USD, plus $800 delivery, comes with everything for a mild boost (70-90hp). There is nothing more needed. So, surely you could get a kit (with the lot) for less than $5000 here.....
It may not be up to the specs of a fully-internally rebuilt EVO motor, but even if it only gave you 50% more HP, on a FWD, that is going to be a lot!
It may not be up to the specs of a fully-internally rebuilt EVO motor, but even if it only gave you 50% more HP, on a FWD, that is going to be a lot!
XxOLIVERxX
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yeahh i find rrms kit is a bit of a rip off. for one because the hardware used you can pick from ebay for around $1500 and the ecu set up is pretty *poo*, have to use a 5th injector system which doesn't distribute the fuel properly to all 4 cylinders and the tuning on it isnt very precise..
basically im going to replicate the RRM kit but use a standalone ems instead of the split second piggy back they use. this eliminates the stupid 5th injector and gives much finer tuning and it will come in at around 4k mark but a better power output ( i feel like im repeating myself :lol: )
i think the evo head idea will have to go out the window. as i just dont have the knowledge to do it nor can i find a head anyway. and dad thinks its going to cause more hassle than its worth.
basically im going to replicate the RRM kit but use a standalone ems instead of the split second piggy back they use. this eliminates the stupid 5th injector and gives much finer tuning and it will come in at around 4k mark but a better power output ( i feel like im repeating myself :lol: )
i think the evo head idea will have to go out the window. as i just dont have the knowledge to do it nor can i find a head anyway. and dad thinks its going to cause more hassle than its worth.