[CE] 4G15 -> 4G93/4

How about i just write up a diy of an install into a ce 1.8 and point out differences for the 1.5? Just so we can close a bunch of threads and tidy it up a bit. And then the mod list for the 93/15 i put together as accompanying mods? That way people will not have as many small hiccups as i did.
 
matty said:
How about i just write up a diy of an install into a ce 1.8 and point out differences for the 1.5? Just so we can close a bunch of threads and tidy it up a bit. And then the mod list for the 93/15 i put together as accompanying mods? That way people will not have as many small hiccups as i did.
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Go for it, I'd read and follow it step by step!!

I'll incorporate it with the Possible engine thread sticky to make a DIY to each possible conversion.
 
im 45% of the way through completing my 4g94 conversion and im going to order some extractors, do i need to order 4g94 extractors or will 4g93 ones fit??
 
Best person to answer would be matty, but from my understanding the 4G93 headers will not fit on the 94 block due to the extend length of the block on the 4G94. So you'll need to get 94 extractors but then possibly mod the end part where it connects to the cat since it'll be a different direction IIRC.


Also I've got a question, I'm weighing up if I do the swap my self or not, so with the gearbox cables, how hard is this to swap over? And bleeding the clutch etc. I'm not to familiar with clutch mechanics nor to much the gearbox... Pretty much: what's involved in that part of the swap.
 
If you have a 4G94 you deffinately need the G94 headers as the depth of the engine is bigger than the G93.

Gear shift cables are exactly the same they are held in place with a nut nothing too dramatic - get your self a Gregories car manual to do the swap - actually if you want you can come down my way in a few weeks time and watch/help pull my 4G93 engine out and install the 4G69 and see how easy it really is... as for bleeding the clutch never done it just unplugged it and topped it up when we reconnected pumper it a few times to get the pressure back up but dont really recall doing it lol...

If I was in your situation I would buy a cheap CE 4G93 (cost $2k)sell your car (CH) ($4k) and look for a wrecked CH manual ($1k) sell off remainder of wrecked CH this way the car will not be off the road for anything more than a long weekend and you will have money spare...
 
With my swap i already had 93 exhaust and my solution was to swap the sumps over. It just cleared by around 5mm each different exhaust may be different though. I also had to slightly bend the hangers underneath near the firewall to get a bit more clearance now around 1-1.5 cm. It depends on what brand you go with in the end though i'd say.
 
chowetime said:
If you have a 4G94 you deffinately need the G94 headers as the depth of the engine is bigger than the G93.

Gear shift cables are exactly the same they are held in place with a nut nothing too dramatic - get your self a Gregories car manual to do the swap - actually if you want you can come down my way in a few weeks time and watch/help pull my 4G93 engine out and install the 4G69 and see how easy it really is... as for bleeding the clutch never done it just unplugged it and topped it up when we reconnected pumper it a few times to get the pressure back up but dont really recall doing it lol...

If I was in your situation I would buy a cheap CE 4G93 (cost $2k)sell your car (CH) ($4k) and look for a wrecked CH manual ($1k) sell off remainder of wrecked CH this way the car will not be off the road for anything more than a long weekend and you will have money spare...
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I'd certainly want to watch/help :D

See, that's the thing, I dont want to have to buy another wreck, what do I do with it after? and I doubt the CH will sell for 4k, maybe 2k-3k if that. I'll see if I can find a 4G94 wreck manual otherwise i'm just gonna use mine.
 
I think you'd be able to get pretty close to 4k, seeing as the k's are relatively low. A bit over 100k right? Depending on how much it costs to get rid of the hail damage, and how much extra you'd get then selling it, it could be worth doing that if you can be bothered. Just a thought
 
Spetz said:
Trondabron said:
You always say you havent driven it in like 4 years and its been garaged. Why pay so much money for a V6 conversion. if you aren't going to drive the car.
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I left Australia (out of necessity)
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Called up by the army?

eimai ego ellinika

i think i said that right lol
 
RE: Selling of CH, etc

When you calculate it, I was struggling to get 4k for the CH the first time around when it was 100% stock bar a few things. Now:
  • interior is mix-matched and not finish
    The front bumper is damage with missing grill pieces
    The km's are 20,000km higher
    Service history will say clutch replacement and lack of service history before 93,000km (hence lower price again)

If I do what you guys do:
So, Currently 2k in bank
Take -2k for ce (+0k left)
+2.5k for ch (+2.5k)
-1.5k for wreck (1k)
-1k on servicing of timing belt, water pump, new clutch, new belts (+/-0k)

If I use my CH
Current 2k in bank (+2k)
-2k for ce (+/-0k)
CH has service record and I know everything is running (no change)

Done... so either way Imma end back and nothing :lol:
 
Sell ch add money 4-5k whatever buy good mr , built up a 94 over time done right but still have a good car in the mean time. why make it harder for your self by starting behind the 8 ball from the get go? plus think ahead if you get a gli array you gonna want black inter, Mr kit and the like down the track? Cause if you do it'll save ua heaps down the track getting it now. just a thought.
I got my mr for under 3 you have nearly enough to to conversion with the change or if a gunna use the 93 use the change for other things.
 
you are forgetting that you have power windows black interior plus a few other bits... I think you could get $4K for your car... even if it is a bit worse for wear... and you certainly can get a MR with no damage for around the $3k mark (pre 2000) as for engine just keep an eye out for one from a wreck will probably be able to pick that up with gear box (not nessicary for a swap)for around $500 max...

You really should sell the CH as is if you spend good money on fixing up the panel and paint it is going to cost you plenty - probably more than what the car would be worth...
 
chowetime said:
You really should sell the CH as is if you spend good money on fixing up the panel and paint it is going to cost you plenty - probably more than what the car would be worth...
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This, if you reckon you could get 3-4K now. If you spend 2-3K fixing hail, do you reckon youd get 6-7K?? Im not sure what sells for what in WA.
 
I'm not fixing the car...

Nor will I get 4k for it.

TBH black interior plastics plus power windows isn't a deal maker/breaker, for this price the car is only open to people needing a car as a cheap run about...

What's the point in buy a car and buying a wreck that I have zero history on? By putting the 4G94 from MY ch into the CE was to keep the fact that my 4g94 is running perfectly now without fault. I know the timing belts been done, all the accessory belts have been done, then water pump has been done, clutch has a brand new one...

And at the end of the day, so what if i only get a GLXi, it's only for a uni car that has a straight body and a running engine, paint, interior and all that crap can come later. But trying to sell that car for upward for 4k is not smart.

And as by my last post either way I go I end up with the same amount of money in my bank account. If I want an MR then I'm just gonna have to wait an extra week to get that money for the mr?

Also I'm not fixing the CH's panel and paint at all? The CH is going to get written off since i'm taking the engine, brakes, fuel system, and most probably the whole wiring loom and interior out to sell privately. Then the shell will goto sim's metal...
 
Tbh even if as you say you get 2.5k for your car its still an expensive cost to pay for an 94 conversion to the just take the the body to scrap.
I personally think that your putting to much of a premium on knowing your engines condition, these engines are simple and cheap if it looks good in the oil cap it prob a good engine an fogr a grand you can prob get engine clutch and timing belt anyways so at a minimum giving up 1.5k just to use your engine, its just not good dollar value . Why pay the cost later on when you can *poo* it in now at better value for money .not having a go just saying.
 
If going from 93-94 I'll do the conversion myself?!?! It was going from 15-94 where I'd pay...?

And yes I am putting a premium on my engine because I KNOW my engine, I know how it's been driven the last 40,000km, I know what's been done and what hasn't, why waste time AND money on buying a wreck when I have one sitting in my driveway ATM with everything I need AND I know the condition of the engine is mint. There is one cost this way, buying a CE. Bam 1-3k depend on model and paint. I'm not gonna *fudge* around selling the CH, transfering the paper work and all of that crap when I'm just going to buy another one which I'll know nothing about. Not to mention I'll get a refund on the 8months of rego left on my CH if I write the car off? So thats $300 straight into my pocket towards the CE. SO currently, keep the CH and using it for the conversion is going to net me $300 more then what the sell then buy then sell *poo*. Not having a go, just saying what you're saying isn't exactly logical nor benfitial to the reason why I'm doing the swap in the first place.
 
Ok man whatever you thinks best gl with your build. keep us posted.always good to get another ce owner in the mix.
 
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