4g93 to a 4g63t engine swap
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i'm sure henry will post here, he's done it. it will be expensive as you will need very strong parts to handle all the torque thats normally distributed between 4 wheels thats going through just the front 2. i'd recommend a CM5A swap which is basically a DOHC 4G93T, with a decent tune you should see some good power figures
BrentonsCE
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Those dohc 4g93t are they not mirrored to the stock aus 4g93 as i was thinking of a engine swap myself but didnt know what the easiest swap would be as i know with a few different swaps i have read about that it is a couple of week process and a fair few issues arise so was just curious as to the easiest swap ( time wise as my car is my daily )
BrentonsCE
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That looks almost excactly like the 4g93 obviously with some slight differences but prob a stupid question but what is the difference between the two engines and if my sohc 1.8 is ok just to turbo what do i need eg what turbo and where is best place to find it and what would the shopping list be as i was definetely thinking of going with the turbo over the engine swap
There is the 4G93T you can find in Aus, but it is from a CC sedan. For simplicity lets just say its head is flipped. The CM5A is an Import engine from a CE model. It is a DOHC 1.8ltr engine. You could source a DOHC head to put on your car. THe easiest thing, still not easy, is just to Turbo your SOHC 4G93. It will need to be engineered 600-1k. The parts are easily 2k. You need a turbo, manifold, intercooler, piping, blow off valve just to name a few. On some setups you dont run an intercooler, some you dont run a BOV. It all depends on the pressure, intended use and so on. You need to do the research and find what suits your car.
Haha close, after work for a few hours each night in the back of the shopABrouwer said:
So many responses, so little info.
1. Nobody has mentioned that the gearboxes in 4g63 and 4g93Ts are AWD. If you are going to use the gearbox in these conversions you need to lock it to FWD, which will cost you roughly 2k for parts and install fee. With the 4g93T swap you can use the standard SOHC 4g93 gearbox, but it is not a direct bolt on. You need to modify the clutch slave cylinder to clear the turbo's wastegate. Josh bought his already modified which meant he didn't have to do this.
2. Halfcuts are the best way to go as you get all the parts you need for a swap. The swap is not as simple as unbolting the engine and putting the new one in. You need all the extra bits like intercooler and piping, airbox and piping, manifolds, bigger brakes and 5 stud hubs setup, wiring, ECU, etc. By getting a halfcut, you get all the bits you need and is the most cost effective way. Trying to source all the little bits on top of an engine can be difficult especially with imports and the costs add up quickly.
3. What skills, tools, knowledge does the OP have? No matter what you read on the net, swaps are not easy if you don't know what you're doing. There's really only one way to learn and that's actually doing it, but if you haven't got some basic mechanical knowledge or somebody helping you that does, then either of these swaps are probably going to be a bit hard to handle.
4. 4g63s and 4g93Ts come in both CC and CE orientation. If you are going to buy one, you have to make sure you get the right series as your gearbox, timing belt, intakes, etc are all reversed between the series. If you are buying a 4g63 setup you need one from an evo 4-6. If you are buying a 4g93T you need one from a CM5A model. CM5As are a great option, but are rare as hell in aus because the car was never delivered in Australia, and most importers don't bother with them and go straight to the evo engine.
Hope this helps
1. Nobody has mentioned that the gearboxes in 4g63 and 4g93Ts are AWD. If you are going to use the gearbox in these conversions you need to lock it to FWD, which will cost you roughly 2k for parts and install fee. With the 4g93T swap you can use the standard SOHC 4g93 gearbox, but it is not a direct bolt on. You need to modify the clutch slave cylinder to clear the turbo's wastegate. Josh bought his already modified which meant he didn't have to do this.
2. Halfcuts are the best way to go as you get all the parts you need for a swap. The swap is not as simple as unbolting the engine and putting the new one in. You need all the extra bits like intercooler and piping, airbox and piping, manifolds, bigger brakes and 5 stud hubs setup, wiring, ECU, etc. By getting a halfcut, you get all the bits you need and is the most cost effective way. Trying to source all the little bits on top of an engine can be difficult especially with imports and the costs add up quickly.
3. What skills, tools, knowledge does the OP have? No matter what you read on the net, swaps are not easy if you don't know what you're doing. There's really only one way to learn and that's actually doing it, but if you haven't got some basic mechanical knowledge or somebody helping you that does, then either of these swaps are probably going to be a bit hard to handle.
4. 4g63s and 4g93Ts come in both CC and CE orientation. If you are going to buy one, you have to make sure you get the right series as your gearbox, timing belt, intakes, etc are all reversed between the series. If you are buying a 4g63 setup you need one from an evo 4-6. If you are buying a 4g93T you need one from a CM5A model. CM5As are a great option, but are rare as hell in aus because the car was never delivered in Australia, and most importers don't bother with them and go straight to the evo engine.
Hope this helps
BrentonsCE
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Does anyone know where the best place is to source the parts needed to put a turbo on my sohc 4g93