Suddenly Died..Timing? Engine siezed?... CE 1.8L..

kwakakat

kwakakat

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Ok, So I havnt had this car long, but has been awesome and not missed a beat... Heading off on a 7 hr drive this arvo, and 40 min into it i lose power, then engine dies, kicked over once then died again... Timing belt is still on, and feels tight, but havnt towed it home yet to check it out properly... Possibly slipping/ s;ipped on the bottom pulley?? coz wont kick over now, the starter just whines as if trying to turn engine but cant..
Could I have damaged the engine by trying to start it again? How do i check etc?

Any info appreciated...
 
is that battery flat, cause if it died while your driving your fuel pump would of stopped and your engine will die. then starting once is possible on theittle fuel left.
 
a) Mechanic will diagnose it best, and a lot of us (though some of us have training in the field) wouldn't be able to precisely tell you whats wrong since we can't see the car.

b) my thoughts, seized engine if it just stopped and the starter motor is whining.

Good Luck.
 
exact same thing happened to mine, and by exact same, i mean exact same
with mine, turned out the timing belt jumped or some *poo* and broke the valves and seized the engine resulting in me dumping a new 4g93 and lots of $$ into it

but what i initially thought it could of been the imboiliser being a tool and jerkin me around, but i was wrong :p lesson learned, dont trust dodgy mechanics, build up a good service history with a reliable mechanic
 
Get a car with a decent battery to attempt to jump start your car, if it turns over, your battery is dead. See if you can get a breaker bar on the main pulley/crankshaft pulley, and try to turn over the engine?? if it wont turn over its done something inside, (put it in neutral first)
 
mdclear said:
why would it sieze unless you been running it on no oil for a while
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Coz pistons can hit valves i think. Thats why its important to make sure timing belts good
 
If you didnt hear any unusal engine noise before dieing try the below.

Test you battery see if its over 12 volts? if not charge it up.
Once charged put back in if it starts = alternator bushes are going or alternator.

Try this first if you have a battery charger or spare battery or volt metre as it cost nothing. If it does start dont run too long or listen for noises incase of internal damage..

Other one is check if you have enough fuel in the tank and isnt gauge playing up.


But if your unsure on mechanical stuff recommend getting someone skilled in the area.
 
cesario said:
exact same thing happened to mine, and by exact same, i mean exact same
with mine, turned out the timing belt jumped or some s*** and broke the valves and seized the engine resulting in me dumping a new 4g93 and lots of $$ into it

but what i initially thought it could of been the imboiliser being a tool and jerkin me around, but i was wrong :p lesson learned, dont trust dodgy mechanics, build up a good service history with a reliable mechanic
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Thats what i thought * SIGH*
Might start looking for another motor then :((
 
sorry just read you said motor is not kicking over so its trying to start but you can see the belt cam moving?
 
NICE AS said:
sorry just read you said motor is not kicking over so its trying to start but you can see the belt cam moving?
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No, couldnt see it move.. so we're assuming the whining noise is the starter motor stuggling to try to turn it over when it wont move...
 
Di i need to get a new belt, n put it on to see if engine is F'd? or will turning engine with a rachet be enough of an indication?

Also, to do a belt... How do i align/find TDC?
 
kwakakat said:
Di i need to get a new belt, n put it on to see if engine is F'd? or will turning engine with a rachet be enough of an indication?

Also, to do a belt... How do i align/find TDC?
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You dont even know if the belt is the problem yet, try to turn the engine over, if it turns you know its not seized etc and have eliminated alot of things. Just putting a new belt on wont do much if the old one is still on.
 
Trondabron said:
kwakakat said:
Di i need to get a new belt, n put it on to see if engine is F'd? or will turning engine with a rachet be enough of an indication?

Also, to do a belt... How do i align/find TDC?
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You dont even know if the belt is the problem yet, try to turn the engine over, if it turns you know its not seized etc and have eliminated alot of things. Just putting a new belt on wont do much if the old one is still on.
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Yeh, will tow it home tomorrow n go from there
 
IF its not turning over and just sounds like its hitting a brick wall its seized. Try clutch starting it if its manual only after determining that the engine still turns freely and cam is turning (check cam movement through oil cam and see if things are moving). other than that drop it off a mitsu dealer and they will sort it out for ya.
 
LWNSLW said:
IF its not turning over and just sounds like its hitting a brick wall its seized. Try clutch starting it if its manual only after determining that the engine still turns freely and cam is turning (check cam movement through oil cam and see if things are moving). other than that drop it off a mitsu dealer and they will sort it out for ya.
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There is and was no banging/ clunking noises, after the loss of power and the engine dying.. it started once but died straight away, ( like the timing was really bad) then took timing cover off, tried to start it and the starter motor sounded like it was TRYING to turn but couldnt, and the timing belt/ pullyes didnt move. so i'm def thinking that the belt has slipped, hence the power loss, and then when tring to start it again, the timings out that far that a piston has hit a valve...

Though im female, and def no , mechanic. so could be wrong..

Will investigate more tomorrow in daylight and update on here when i have more info...

There's no way i could afford to take it to a mitsu dealer, specially round here. Would cost half what the car cost me. Besides, the more stuff i try to do myself, the more i'll learn :)
 
some things are best to take to a mechanic, espesh if u need the car sooner rather than later, they get the problem fixed fast no stuffing around
 
You risk effing up the valve train by turning an engine that is poorly aligned... if you have a belt, then you more than likely have an "interference" type engine (one that can bend valves on contact with the piston).

Just take it to a mechanic, does not need to be Mitsubishi... but doing yourself, best not.
 
Well it sounds like Ur belt has jumped a handfull of teeth. Valves possibly hit pistons which results in bent valves. If u know a mechanic get then to check it out for ya. Other wise the mechanic that Ur parents use etc etc u get the idea....
 
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