RTA exemptions

mmc77 said:
Its ya mum, its a mates, its a mirage, its a lancer, evo 6 wing + big cooler, it looks stock Wtf you are confussing the heal out of me . just saying.
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he wants to make it LOOK stock by taking off the evo 6 wing and maybe covering up intercooler or some sht :lol: MESH over it :thumbup:
 
dlusional_image said:
mmc77 said:
Its ya mum, its a mates, its a mirage, its a lancer, evo 6 wing + big cooler, it looks stock Wtf you are confussing the heal out of me . just saying.
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he wants to make it LOOK stock by taking off the evo 6 wing and maybe covering up intercooler or some sht :lol: MESH over it :thumbup:
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Maybe tape some cardboard over the front! Works good eh no one will notice.
 
Learn to drive a normal car that won't kill you when you make a misjudgement or will just attract police attention. A N/A Lancer will serve you fine for your Ps and it hasn't really got enough power to get you into serious trouble but chuck a couple mods on and she'll go alright....
 
dont be harsh, i think a few of you are missing the point here... Hes asking a fairly direct question. What are the chances of getting an exemption to drive a turbo lancer with roadworthy certificate (rego) in his mums name after getting it off a mate. He needs it to commute to and from work, as he doesnt have much money. And what are the things he can do to increase the chances of this happening, eg make the car look stock by removing the wing and hiding the intercooler. Mate the only thing i can say is, apply for the exemption and see if you can use it only to drive to and from work, otherwise you are gonna need a new car
 
Yer but I call bullshit on the whole it's his mum's turbo CE that she drives daily and he needs an exemption to drive it to work. That to me just sounds like a concocted story in hope the RTA might beleive it and grant the exemption.

P Platers dont belong in high powered cars, thats one of the few things the RTA have gotten right. Sadly though alike motorbikes they need to start doing it by a power-weight ratio basis due to the increasing power of modern engines...
 
tm34 - your presuming alot there and what's typed and what your presuming are not the same.
And i couldn't agree more with Ryan a turbo anything is no place for a p plater full stop.
 
"eg make the car look stock by removing the wing and hiding the intercooler" that doesnt increase chance of getting exemption, applying for exemption the rta guys dont even see ur car, its all based on the form and how well u put ur situation on paper and words imo

"make the car look stock by removing the wing and hiding the intercooler" is more of... how do i drive the car and make it less sus to be pulled over

"P Platers dont belong in high powered cars, thats one of the few things the RTA have gotten right." - not saying ur wrong, but how does this work? like even in low powered cars like a n/a 1.8 lancer, chances of causing an accident is still the same as high powered car? really depends on the driver imo. behind the wheel of a reckless driver, they can be rev heads and drive a n/a lancer on gears 1-3 and they can still feel fast, many of my mates drive s15's and turbo cars, and even being provoked at the lights they still keep they're cool and drive safe, most my friends just enjoy a high powered car for the looks and rep at meets and just enjoy modding cars, they dont even speed or hoon, so i think in the end its all to do with the drivers themselfs in how safe they are or arent
 
dlusional_image said:
"P Platers dont belong in high powered cars, thats one of the few things the RTA have gotten right." - not saying ur wrong, but how does this work? like even in low powered cars like a n/a 1.8 lancer, chances of causing an accident is still the same as high powered car? really depends on the driver imo. behind the wheel of a reckless driver, they can be rev heads and drive a n/a lancer on gears 1-3 and they can still feel fast, many of my mates drive s15's and turbo cars, and even being provoked at the lights they still keep they're cool and drive safe, most my friends just enjoy a high powered car for the looks and rep at meets and just enjoy modding cars, they dont even speed or hoon, so i think in the end its all to do with the drivers themselfs in how safe they are or arent
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all well and good to say its not the car its the drivers.

Now how do restrict the drivers that dont hoon from the drivers that do hoon? and how do you do this fairly. The solution needs to be proactive not reactive, and restricting high powered vehicles is an easy, across the board solution.
 
yeh thats true.. in terms of p platers hooning, i guess high performance cars are more dangerous as u can accerlerate to higher speeds faster, but in saying that, just because some1 is full liscened driver, it doesnt make them a better/safer driver than the p plater, the p plater just has less experience on the road thats all. but in the end it all depends on the driver, a mum on her p plates can be alot safer/less dangerous than a full liscence whos a hoon
 
P platers are proven to put themselves in more dangerous situations, take more risks. A high power vehicle amplifies the chances of u having an accident due to the lack of experience and knowledge of driving. Driving a low powered lancer throughout my p's was the best thing i could ever have done.
 
Obv depends on driver but car that can do over 200kmh in a very short distance is the problem where it takes someone in a 1.5 2weeks to get to 160kmh by the time they hit the tree 500m up the road there only prob doing .... not even enough to set the air bag off where the turbo guys hits it fast enough to rip the car in half. bit of a piss take but you get the gist of it.
 
haha true that, well said.. but oh well not my concern, i dont hoon so not my problem :p learnt my lesson after getting suspended for 6months, worst 6 months of my life not being able to drive esp living so far from closest form of transport :p
 
dlusional_image said:
"P Platers dont belong in high powered cars, thats one of the few things the RTA have gotten right." - not saying ur wrong, but how does this work? like even in low powered cars like a n/a 1.8 lancer, chances of causing an accident is still the same as high powered car? really depends on the driver imo. behind the wheel of a reckless driver, they can be rev heads and drive a n/a lancer on gears 1-3 and they can still feel fast, many of my mates drive s15's and turbo cars, and even being provoked at the lights they still keep they're cool and drive safe, most my friends just enjoy a high powered car for the looks and rep at meets and just enjoy modding cars, they dont even speed or hoon, so i think in the end its all to do with the drivers themselfs in how safe they are or arent
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Higher powered cars have the potential to build up speed quicker which increases the chances of you making a misjudgement and also likely magnifies the potential damage due to the extra speed. You are better off learning what happens if you *fudge* up with too much accelerator mid corner,etc in a car that doesn't have much power rather than a powerful car where the situation is going to turn to *poo* really quickly...

It's the age old story that you need to learn to walk before you can run...and when it comes to cars people make mistakes and young males in particular tend to have a heavy foot so keeping them out of higher powered cars is a smarter idea. Besides there really is no NEED to have a V8, a lil 1.5 or 2L will still get you from point A to B.

Also the other side is with such a lack of tolerance from police towards P platers you wouldnt want anything high powered. I know with my GS500F moto which is LAMS approved it is still similar speed to a early 2000s V8 and god damn its hard to stay within the L/P plate speed limits!
 
To be honest, I really think time on the road and experience is the key here. Although going on power to weight definitely makes more sense in my head. P platers can still get access to some quick cars that aren't turbo or V8 (Pretty much any sporty Honda). Seems like a bit of an over generalisation... I know for a fact that while I still make mistakes at the wheel I am a much better driver now than when I was a P plater. It's all about knowing how to react in any given situation at anytime. I am by no means perfect but yeah. My 2c.
 
Wow this thread exploded....

Ummm firstly tm34 is right about what OP is talking about...

Can't really comment on exceptions since wa as no laws

But this topic went off topic quick, maybe start a new thread in o/t to discuss further...
 
i also find it funny that you cant drive ANY v8 even a clapped out old 253 that wouldnt pull the hat off your head

my thoughts on the rules are because were not allowed too drive a turbo well thats why we want too if that makes sense? like your mum saying not too do somthing and secretly you do anyway :lol:

i had my wrx and got caught and learnt my lesson
 
Lets not get into the whole p plate safe open unsafe argument
nobody will get anywhere and its a waste of time voicing an opinion on
because the fact is any person regardless of licence age race car driven...
They are all prone to doing dumb *poo* cos they are human. simple fact

now lets leave the p's vs opens topic alone
 
One of my neighbours kids was applied for an exemption as he is on his red P's now.
They got knocked back, as Mum & Dad have a BF Typhoon and a new S/C FG 355.
They ended up getting a cheap late 90's Corolla for him.

I'd say save yourself the drama, just get a cheapy N/A for the duration of your limits on your P's.
Use the time to save for something you really want, Its what I did when I was restricted on my motorbike L's & P's.
The moment I was off them... Hello Hayabusa :D
 
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