cc lancer engine conversion

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Hi guys, need some help and ideas. So im getting too used to my manual 1.8 cc (4g93) lancer and i'm in need if some more power! Whats the process for chucking a mivec engine in? Which engine would be best and will there be a noticable difference? And will it just bolt straight in?
Thanks guys :)
 
DOHC 4G93p from a Proton is the best option but it won't give you much more power unless you wack a Turbo on it, or just get an engine from a CC GSR.

Either wait it will require a new wiring loom and other parts.

I have a Proton one sitting in my garage waiting to go in my CC coupe when I can afford it.
 
4g93t from a gsr will bolt in. Least amount of work, best amount of power for effort involved (about 140kw at the fly). Just need the complete engine and turbo setup, complete engine loom and ecu, and exhaust to match. Your gearbox will bolt up to it.

4g92 mivec will bolt in. More work involved, 2nd least amount of power gained (about 125kw at the fly). Need complete engine including intake and exhaust manifolds, complete engine loom and ecu, and possibly some extra wiring to be done to ensure the mivec works properly. Will net less power than a 4g93t.

4g63t from a vr4 or evo 1-3 will bolt in. Most amount of work, costs the most and most amount of power gained (around 200kw at the fly). There is a write up on evocoupe.net about what is required to get it to work. Will require an evo gearbox locked to FWD to maintain the power, not sure if you can get away with a 4g93 box on it, but if you can it will blow up pretty quick. Also requires full engine loom, ecu, full engine, plus some wiring work.

4g93p from a proton GTi or M21 will bolt in. Least amount of power, least amount of work (100kw at the fly). Advantage with this engine is that you can bolt on a 4g93t setup at any stage and run a 4g93t ecu and you're away (obviously a bit more work than that but you get the point). Need engine, wiring loom and ecu. Your gearbox will bolt up to it. Two minor wiring bits need to be done, one for the o2 sensor and one for the reverse lights.

With any of these swaps you will need to change over the speedo cluster both to get correct readings and to avoid any problems during the troubleshooting stage.
 
Thanks alot for the info, few options to choose from.

What about mods to my sohc 4g93? Is it worth doing or just better to engine swap? I want to be able to rev out harder and get more power
 
ok 93 sohc you could make it dohc and you could turbo it but if your doing that follow what rigby said and get the 4G93p and turbo that or get a EVO GSR 4G93t and use your gearbox
 
If you want to go boosted just go straight for a 93t or 63t you will have much better reliability and will be able to pull more than stock power. If you want to stay n/a a head swap Is about as easy difficult as you need to go. A head swap will still require the same parts as a dohc engine swap minus the block
 
DOHC will let you rev out harder, and mivec even moreso. I don't change gears til like 7-8k rpm.
 
There is also the 6a12 from the galant which imo would be far better than a 4g93P. If you weren't thinking turbo.
 
bumpak said:
There is also the 6a12 from the galant which imo would be far better than a 4g93P. If you weren't thinking turbo.
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The SOHC 6a12? Farkkkk that shiet.
 
rigby said:
DOHC will let you rev out harder, and mivec even moreso. I don't change gears til like 7-8k rpm.
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By this he means, he doesnt change gears, the automatic gearbox does :)
 
LIAM said:
ok 93 sohc you could make it dohc and you could turbo it but if your doing that follow what rigby said and get the 4G93p and turbo that or get a EVO GSR 4G93t and use your gearbox
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Yes but by the time you do the mods it's just easier to swap the whole engine.

Yes a V6 is an option but apart from bragging rights unless you plan to turbo it its not worth the trouble for the extra weight.

If you do any engine swap change things like the water pump, timing belt and such while it's out, a lot easier and at least you know it's been done and also if you find any issues while doing that you can always change your plans.

Main thing right now holding me back from putting in the 4G93p is cost, I have the engine, computer and wiring (assuming they work) but it will still need the timing belt and such done plus a new clutch which right now I just can't afford while my old SOHC is still working perfectly fine.
 
Only problem with a swap like that is the lack of spare parts, knowledge and availability of any kind of mod that doesn't compromise the engine in some way.

Also craig your gearbox will fit fine on your g93p. If your sohc clutch is fine, you're good to go.

"Now remove the stock Lancer GLXi flywheel from your GLXi engine and put it on the Proton engine (if it doesn’t already have a flywheel). Then finish off by using your stock Lancer GLXi clutch, pressure plate, and finally gearbox. NOW... Not all the bolts for the Lancer gearbox match the holes on the Proton engine. You will find the entire gearbox to block bolts will go in except the 2 bottom ones - that's OK as you don’t really need them and my mate has been driving around for 18 months without any problems (I can’t foresee a big problem with this anyway)."
 
Well if you swapped for a 6a12tt i dont think you will have a problem modding as you wont need to do anything to it, as you can just be happy with the factory power especially in a fwd application. You always hear people talking about how hard the spare parts are, but really all you need for a swap like this is a ebay timing belt and water pump kit and that it is.
 
On a 20 y.o. turbo motor? The thing would be ready to fall apart.
 
Rigby if/when I do the engine swap I'll do the clutch, it has at least 150k on it.
No point doing all that work and not doing the clutch.
But right now unless my 4G93 blows up or something I have no immediate plans.
 
Well the longer you let the engine sit, the worse it's going to become unless you are actively cranking it and making sure nothing is corroding, etc.
 
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