i've heard a few people say that the stock cam from a 4g93 is the same as a stage 1 4g94 cam i was wondering if this is true or if it would be better to get one specifically for the 4g94 also what improvements can be expected with a stage 2 cam and haltech interceptor and what other mods are required along with these parts.
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- Thread starter donza81
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tryg
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any stage two cams elongate the time your valves operate... more air in and longer exhausting, makes for a lumpier ride but more power... expect bigger fuelling and therefore loss of more cash at the fuel pump....
I have had mild-grind cams in a few cars, makes them a bit less smooth in traffic, but haul @ss when out of town....
I have had mild-grind cams in a few cars, makes them a bit less smooth in traffic, but haul @ss when out of town....
tryg
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1. Ring around
2. Take car there for appraisal and chat
3. Decide on route
4. Let professionals do on site, with all the available tools and run-out dials etc at their disposal
5. Come back and pay
6. Enjoy
Trust me, this is the best option (and I am also very handy, rebuilding race bikes every other month for myself, but some things are just left to qualified professionals).
My 2c
2. Take car there for appraisal and chat
3. Decide on route
4. Let professionals do on site, with all the available tools and run-out dials etc at their disposal
5. Come back and pay
6. Enjoy
Trust me, this is the best option (and I am also very handy, rebuilding race bikes every other month for myself, but some things are just left to qualified professionals).
My 2c
adjustable camgears are recomended for a camshaft install, but are not necessary, it gives that extra tweaking range for best tuning and the tming you want
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i would look elsewhere for power b4 camshaft tho tbh.... nice lightened underdrive pully would do u a world of difference for way cheaper
may well be good to look into some handling and braking upgrades aswell will give u more freedom to fang it more safely
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i would look elsewhere for power b4 camshaft tho tbh.... nice lightened underdrive pully would do u a world of difference for way cheaper
may well be good to look into some handling and braking upgrades aswell will give u more freedom to fang it more safely
matty
Active Member
4G93 cam is like a 0.5 cam upgrade not quite a stage 1 it will increase your low and mid range, a stage 1 will benefit the whole powerband more evenly, a stage 2 is for mid to high rpm power. I would recommend the following guide as the 4G94 is just a slightly larger 4G93.
Look here for benefits before cams and ecu's viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1269
Look here for benefits before cams and ecu's viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1269
hi compression :twisted:
would def need a decent ECU for quads, as u would be running no MAF with the quad setup
i have been thinking about a DTB setup that would work with MAF, would be cheaper aswell and could be cabled to be sequantial for better low end velocity and high end flow
basically (from the filter) filter, 1 intake pipe, maf somewhere on that 1 pipe, split the pipe after the maf at the same distance from each throttle body so that air travels same distance after MAF
thereby making DTB while still on budget MAF
just a theory tho, i would love to try it one day
would def need a decent ECU for quads, as u would be running no MAF with the quad setup
i have been thinking about a DTB setup that would work with MAF, would be cheaper aswell and could be cabled to be sequantial for better low end velocity and high end flow
basically (from the filter) filter, 1 intake pipe, maf somewhere on that 1 pipe, split the pipe after the maf at the same distance from each throttle body so that air travels same distance after MAF
thereby making DTB while still on budget MAF
just a theory tho, i would love to try it one day
donza81 said:
holey moley, i think this may be a bit overkill, i reckon youll struggle to keep up airflow
well i'm sure there are products out there to suit this kind of setup as its been around for a while on different models of cars its just a matter of getting the right setup i'd like to hear if anyone has done anything like that before because a lot of people here have lots of opinions about what doesen't work but not much to say about what works really well
thats cos alot of the ppl that come by here arnt that serious about modding, they just want a kit zorst and sound
ITB/QTB would work really well. BUT its the most expencive option, and there is no bolt up kit for the 4g9x engines
you would be looking at $1.5K just for the TB's then u will need ECU and tune which is an extra $1.6K+ for it wo work without the MAF
i kno what you are thinking u see it on the civics and *poo* and it looks the *woo-hoo*, and if your after a sexy engine bay for sure its good,
but if ur after power and u dont wanna spend $3K++ on a mod that will catch u maybe 20kw max with a cam and good tune (you could almost go turbo setup tuned for that much)
you want better flow? get a CAI setup stainless/allum pipes, mandrel bends, to an upgraded bored out single throttle body. will cost u $400 for all that, give ur plenum a grind
you wont need an ECU or tune and it will net you extra top end and its dirt cheap
there are so much easier and MUCH cheaper ways for better flow, i honestly dont think you would spend $3k+++ on ITB's thats the reality
ITB/QTB would work really well. BUT its the most expencive option, and there is no bolt up kit for the 4g9x engines
you would be looking at $1.5K just for the TB's then u will need ECU and tune which is an extra $1.6K+ for it wo work without the MAF
i kno what you are thinking u see it on the civics and *poo* and it looks the *woo-hoo*, and if your after a sexy engine bay for sure its good,
but if ur after power and u dont wanna spend $3K++ on a mod that will catch u maybe 20kw max with a cam and good tune (you could almost go turbo setup tuned for that much)
you want better flow? get a CAI setup stainless/allum pipes, mandrel bends, to an upgraded bored out single throttle body. will cost u $400 for all that, give ur plenum a grind
you wont need an ECU or tune and it will net you extra top end and its dirt cheap
there are so much easier and MUCH cheaper ways for better flow, i honestly dont think you would spend $3k+++ on ITB's thats the reality
you could even do DOHC for cheaper that would net you similar gains without the need for tune or ecu
and would give u a better head to work with and more cam profiles and better cam tweaking
another idea, find an extra 94/93 plenum at wreckers with TB, cut into oposite side to TB weld your existing TB flange onto that side, make up a custom puller so that both TB's are pulled the same by the throttle cable... tadaa u have DTB, for what... maybe $500 for parts max, then just work an intake to suit with using 1 maf, this can also be made to do the TB's sequentially so u get near decent low end power and epic high end
im not saying ITB's are bad, there are just cheaper options for almost the same gains, just minus the sexy pronz looking anodised metal
and would give u a better head to work with and more cam profiles and better cam tweaking
another idea, find an extra 94/93 plenum at wreckers with TB, cut into oposite side to TB weld your existing TB flange onto that side, make up a custom puller so that both TB's are pulled the same by the throttle cable... tadaa u have DTB, for what... maybe $500 for parts max, then just work an intake to suit with using 1 maf, this can also be made to do the TB's sequentially so u get near decent low end power and epic high end
im not saying ITB's are bad, there are just cheaper options for almost the same gains, just minus the sexy pronz looking anodised metal