Brake Upgrade Information

Currently buying hub rings to fit my advans and have come across some differing info. I read somewhere that the stock mirage center bore is 56.1mm, but then reading through this thread people say it is actually 64mm. Which is correct?
 
NFG said:
Currently buying hub rings to fit my advans and have come across some differing info. I read somewhere that the stock mirage center bore is 56.1mm, but then reading through this thread people say it is actually 64mm. Which is correct?
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OEM 4stud CB is 56.1mm.

When upgrading to 5 stud, the CB changes.
 
Another question, what is needed to swap to 4 x 114.3? Seen the info for 5 x 114.3 but not 4. Is it even possible?
 
NFG said:
Another question, what is needed to swap to 4 x 114.3? Seen the info for 5 x 114.3 but not 4. Is it even possible?
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Yes, you need to convert to Evo 1>3 Front and rear hubs, or JDM Cyborg Hubs, possible only the 01 Revision Cyborg, So good luck. Best chance is Evo hubs.
 
I had Evo III knuckles on my CE which gave 4X114.3 PCD however the bumpsteer and camber issues were too severe with these.
I'd stick to 4X100 personally. But yes some later Cyborg did get the 4X114.3 stud pattern however these parts would be quite difficult to find
 
After a bit of info, I currently have the fto hub/brakes setup front/rear with 5 stud. I also have a VR4 facelift front brake setup and I was wondering if its worth/possible to use the VR4 brakes up front as they are 294mm iirc as opposed to 276mm fto brakes. I have the FTO and VR4 brake master also, is there a difference? Thanks
 
95Luke said:
After a bit of info, I currently have the fto hub/brakes setup front/rear with 5 stud. I also have a VR4 facelift front brake setup and I was wondering if its worth/possible to use the VR4 brakes up front as they are 294mm iirc as opposed to 276mm fto brakes. I have the FTO and VR4 brake master also, is there a difference? Thanks
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VR4 can be used, however i dont remember the specifics with pre-facelift and facelift: one has caliper-hub bolt spacing of 130mm (bolt up to lancer/FTO hubs), and the other has 160mm (Evo/VR4 hubs i think?).

Edit: Should simply be a matter of unbolt one caliper, and trying to bolt up the VR4 caliper. if it fits as easy as a CE-to-FTO/Magna caliper, then you have 294mm ability
 
donki said:
VR4 can be used, however i dont remember the specifics with pre-facelift and facelift: one has caliper-hub bolt spacing of 130mm (bolt up to lancer/FTO hubs), and the other has 160mm (Evo/VR4 hubs i think?).

Edit: Should simply be a matter of unbolt one caliper, and trying to bolt up the VR4 caliper. if it fits as easy as a CE-to-FTO/Magna caliper, then you have 294mm ability
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Hmm okay thanks, I will definitely have a sus when it comes time.
One last question, would having the larger VR4 fronts upset the brake balance between front/rear?
 
Is there a difference between proton m21 gti rear calipers and Fto rear calipers my fto ones have t2 stamped on them and the m21 ones have t4 stamped on them any idea what that means or just stay with fto rears
 
LIAM said:
Is there a difference between proton m21 gti rear calipers and Fto rear calipers my fto ones have t2 stamped on them and the m21 ones have t4 stamped on them any idea what that means or just stay with fto rears
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Not sure what t2/t4 mean but what you want to look at is the casting number
Proton and FTO calipers are the same, they have the same casting number (3001) and the rebuild kits are compatible.
The evo iii rear calipers have a different casting number and use a different rebuild kit to the fto/proton despite looking very similar. This is because the evo iii caliper has a larger bore to fit a larger piston.
 
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What are the newest Mitsubishis that use the twin pot 276mm brake calipers?
To get the lowest mileage ones basically
 
Luke-H said:
Not sure what t2/t4 mean but what you want to look at is the casting number
Proton and FTO calipers are the same, they have the same casting number (3001) and the rebuild kits are compatible.
The evo iii rear calipers have a different casting number and use a different rebuild kit to the fto/proton despite looking very similar. This is because the evo iii caliper has a larger bore to fit a larger piston.
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I know the Proton ones have a spring on them, FTO ones do not.
Otherwise are the same.
 
ARC said:
I know the Proton ones have a spring on them, FTO ones do not.
Otherwise are the same.
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The FTO do have a spring I've completely disassembled and rebuilt both the FTO and proton calipers and they are identical. Someone must have removed the spring from your calipers.

Exploded FTO DE3A Rear Caliper
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