Turbo...what about surpercharged?

superchargers are only a real benefit in a larger capacity engine they are parasitic meaning that you have to make power to create more power. not really worth it I don't think, for similar $$ you could do a turbo
 
yeah supercharge kits are nothing new for lancers/mirages. theyre just not done that often because there isnt many off the shelf kits for it and the outcome isnt really worth it.

as chowetime said, turbo kit will get u much better gains.
 
If you had the room in the bay (might be good for a 4g15) you could dual charge, or whatever it's called, running a turbo and supercharger which may produce more power then just a turbo set up?
 
skippy said:
If you had the room in the bay (might be good for a 4g15) you could dual charge, or whatever it's called, running a turbo and supercharger which may produce more power then just a turbo set up?
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its twin charge. and off a 1.5 probably wouldnt be the best to twincharge because it takes a lot more boost to get it to something that the 2.4 could do with just a turbo and low boost.
 
supercharge is still good on smaller engines
you dont need to lose ur aircon in some setups

you guys need to read up on chargers before so u can make an informed decision as to which style charger suits your aplication, turbo is good but its not the ONLY way

having a roots or twin-screw charger you can just integrate it into a custom intake maifold
.: keeping A/c and needing no extra pipes to int-cool etc.
roots and twinscrew however are quite parasitic, but will still make good power

centrefugal (sp?) are less parasitic and more efficient, but these setups are generaly mounted to replace A/c
and have the need for pipes to the TB

also consider a electromagnetic clutch pully, similar to your A/c pully, have the charger engage when u want (altho need to setup tuning to suit both maps) and this could give u the easy driving and power when u want either

and if ur having issues with parasitic effect drive the charger so it spins slower (pully ratio that makes the charger sapp less, and get full boost later)
 
Drove a supercharged focus today. Went hard but imo doesnt compare to a turbo. But im way biast lol
 
turbo or supercharge? both make power, supercharged is less exhaust mods. "Parasitic draw? WTF" Supercharged boost starts from idle, turbo boost starts from predetemined revs according to compressor ratio, cmon kids, :D yeah lets start an argument !!!
 
tojo1998 said:
yeah lets start an argument !!!
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both kinds of forced induction have their merits.
Turbocharging requires injector replacement, exhaust mods, fuel pump and reg, intercooler and plumbing, ecu
Supercharging requires injector replacement, good flow exhaust, fuel pump and reg, ecu
Please note these are basic mods for moderate power, additional small bits are required but you will get the point.
Both can make the same power but at different rpm.
For ''P" platers and insurance issues, the supercharger can be removed easily without obvious mods at the wreckers/holding bay before insurance asessors see it
 
i know i would have me a supercharger over a turbo on my lancer
i want my power from the get-go, rather than waiting for full spool of a turbo
 
not wanting to start an arguement but more for the fact of wanting to learn...

So if s/c is a better option over turbo then why are more people not going S/C is it a popularity thing eg the massess prefer to see turbos rather than S/C?
 
Could I be right to say (continuing the discussion form of this thread) that people avoid S/C's on the basis that parts and chargers are maybe not so readily available as appose to T/C's?

And would I be right on saying that a S/C is more damaging to an engine? (extra load as well as boosting constantly in theorum)
 
I think you can still intercool a S/C just a little more pipe work... just would be interesting as to why people prefer Turbo vs S/C and why manufacturers build more turboo than S/C
 
tojo1998 said:
For ''P" platers and insurance issues, the supercharger can be removed easily without obvious mods at the wreckers/holding bay before insurance asessors see
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Mate seriously I'm gonna have to call you out at being full of it!! Because insurance assesses are so dumb they wouldn't notice,holding yards just let ya roll in with your tools and open up the bonnett and strip you whole setup like its a 2 minute job and also after the p plates car as you say has been smashed at the front like 85% @ the wreckers are it would be easy to get it all out but being such an expert on these matters i spose you already knew that.
Its the rules here that everyone be cool and tolerate the differences betwhen us all so with out being rude i say judging by your comments and your taste in avatar pic your whit and humour level are one in the same.
have a nice day. :wave:
 
chowetime said:
So if s/c is a better option over turbo then why are more people not going S/C is it a popularity thing eg the massess prefer to see turbos rather than S/C?
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I don't think it's a popularity thing.

Turbocharging is more of a proven technology for inline motors, if it wasn't the roles would be reversed.
Where S/C is more proven for V configuration motors.
But in saying that, turbocharging has made a resurgence with some factory V8's and W motors recently, the Bugatti Veyron one big stand out with it's W16 quad turbo.

It's pretty self evident how many factory turbo inline production vehicles there are to supercharged.
I could name plenty of one, but not the other...
 
mmc77 said:
tojo1998 said:
For ''P" platers and insurance issues, the supercharger can be removed easily without obvious mods at the wreckers/holding bay before insurance asessors see
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Mate seriously I'm gonna have to call you out at being full of it!! Because insurance assesses are so dumb they wouldn't notice,holding yards just let ya roll in with your tools and open up the bonnett and strip you whole setup like its a 2 minute job and also after the p plates car as you say has been smashed at the front like 85% @ the wreckers are it would be easy to get it all out but being such an expert on these matters i spose you already knew that.
Its the rules here that everyone be cool and tolerate the differences betwhen us all so with out being rude i say judging by your comments and your taste in avatar pic your whit and humour level are one in the same.
have a nice day. :wave:
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Yes I have a sense of humour, no I don't make myself out to be someone I'm not, a holding yard can be where the tow truck takes it, normally back to their own depot, no the damage doesn't have to be " 85% " at the front. The holding yard has nothing to do with the assessors. The car can sit for days until you actually report it damaged. Yes you will have time to do whatever you want. The holding yards will let u in to do things, we have done this several times swapping unrwc tyres etc or things that might void a claim. Yes assessors are smarter than u think. They are also taught to look over the car to try and see if their are things that can void insurance. As a qualified mechanic of 10 years with yes I do know what has been said on this site can be rubbish. I like to help out younger modders as a lot of us were in that situation one time or another. It makes me annoyed to see young ppl get sucked in to bshit
Read back what you wrote, " do u actually know what ur talking about" Don't bag ppl when they are trying to help :)
 
chowtime u can intercool supercharged engines. Anything that makes the intake air cooler helps out. Years ago before a drag race we used to pack dry ice on top of the V8 inlet manifold to keep inlet temps down. It all works
 
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