CJ / CY Lancer 4G69 throttle body conversion

Bumblebee

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G'day mate.
Glad you found this info.
Before we go to much further please do not think of this info as the be all end all or think of it as a step by step how to.
I will give you all the info I have to date and show you what I did to make the 4G69 throttle body work on a 2012 Manual 4b11 lancer CY.
I need to thank a few people along the line who's brains I have picked and been helpful with information to help crack this.
In no set order we have "manic mechanic" , "Merlin Tuning" , "Troy" from clubcj.net , and myself, "Bumblebee"
I have spent 6 months working on this and learn a truck load.

This topic is not for the faint of heart, and if you think you will have this all read and all working in 5 minutes after you finish reading all of this, do yourself a favour and close this up now and move along and find something else to do with your vehicle.
This project to convert a 4B11/12 TB (throttle body) into a 4G69 can be 100% reversible to your stock 4b11/12 TB if you are very careful when you do this and take your time and do not damage anything.
Don't hold me or anyone else responsible if something breaks you do this modification at your own risk.
The best idea is to lay your hands on some second hand parts and put your stock working TB to one side in a safe place so if it anytime it all goes pear shaped ( trust me it can, and does sometimes) then you can reinstall the stock TB and carry on with life.
You will need an assortment of tools.
One will be a OBD2 tool and depending on what kind of phone you have be it android or iPhone depends on what you buy.
I have an android and I have found the $75 OBD2 tool from Jaycar will work. It's slow as a snail but to read codes in the ECU it will do the job. There is many better units out there. Go hunting and reading and find something you like. Buy it. Try it.
Also you will need a decent tool kit with a hammer , a punch, a rotary tool/die grinder, security's torx screws , ratchet , sockets , spanners etc. I'm sure if your a decent handy man you will have what is required. Oh yeah and some silicon , I use permatex silicon in a tube. Buy it from Autobarn. Under $20 it is blue . It's a gasket sealant.
And the last thing is a aluminium lid off a beer bottle or a bottle of wine (I'm not kidding about this. Trust me on this)
Did I tell you this is not a how to guide?
Oh good.
Also if you get this all wrong and a screw let's go out of the butterfly it could get sucked in your motor and be bashed around a bit by a hot piston and bashed into a cylinder head and a inlet and exhaust valve also.
You have been warned.

A little bit of background info.
The 4G69 motor is a Mitsubishi 2.4 litre single cam motor used in a number of different vehicles over the years.
We want one of these throttle bodies.
If you go hunting there is a few places they can be bought you can buy then new and second hand. I have seen second hand ones for under $100 . New ones from about $150 thru to $300.
Get one. From where is your decision.
You need it.

Next I strongly urge you to get another 4b11 throttle body ( if you have a 4b11 motor) and if you have a 4b12 motor get a spare 4b12 Throttle body. I understand the 4b11 and 4b12 use the same throttle body.
However you can research that and buy what you feel is right.
If you get a spare one I strongly suggest you bolt it to your car and test it before you go any further.(highly recommended)

Did i mention we do lots of testing?if you don't like doing that you need to stop reading now and find something else to do.

Now you have all your tools and a spare stock TB for your 4b11 or 4b12 and you tested it on your car and you know it works and you have a 4G69 throttle body and the tools mentioned earlier we can proceed.

We are almost getting to the fun bits!!
Hang in there.

You will need to take the stock TB and the 4G69 and lay them on their side and with the hammer and flat punch give the Welsh plug a decent whack in the centre.
Once you have given it a decent whack take to it with your rotary tool and a small griding tip and knock a hole thru the Welsh plug.
Once you have a hole thru it you can then murder the Welsh plug to remove it. If you bash down on the edges you will damage the inside of the throttle body housing.
Not a good idea.
Now the Welsh plug is removed ( have you figured out yet why we need the aluminium wine bottle or beer bottle lid for yet) we can roll the TB on its side and remove the 4 X torx security screws and remove the TPS cover plate.
Remove the idle gear between the electric motor and the drive gear that's mount to the side of the spindle for the butterfly.

Look at the butterfly and remove the two screws holding it in place.
Using the drive gear on the side of the throttle body rotate the spindle and slide the butterfly out the front of the TB
Do not press on the butterfly with the gears etc all in position you do run a risk of bending the butterfly and that's not a good thing.
Oh yeah did I tell you to get some pink.low strength Loctite? You need that to. Better go get some mate.

Ok so now we should have the intermediate gear removed
The butterfly removed and the 2 X screws holding it in
Do not mix up these parts. Best idea is a ice cream container and put all parts from each TB into its own container so you don't get confusing as to what is what.

Next thing we can do is go back to where you removed the Welsh plug.
In there is a small screw. You can undo it with a 7mm socket. Be very careful with the screw. It is on a spring mount behind the gear. Get too tough and you will snap a plastic spring locator.

Now while wearing safety glasses very very slowly can carefully hold the gear and slide the spindle out.
Now make sure you pay very close attention to what way the gear and spring are sitting and what way you need to press against it to make the spring take the tension..cos we are going to need this to rebuild it all shortly.
There's some decent spring tension there so do be careful and have a decent grip of the gear and slide it all apart.
Remember I said at the start this is not for the front of heart? Oh good.

Well you should have the throttle body pretty much disassemble now.
Do this for both throttle body's.

The main thing you need to do now is use the spindle from the 4b11 and put it in the 4g69 housing.
Make sure you put the spring back in. The preload on that is about half a turn.
Put the screw in the back of the spindle where we removed the Welsh plug.
Don't do it up too tight or it won't move freely.
Once it is in slide the 4g69 butterfly in and use some Loctite to hold both screws in.
Ok so now the fun bit of testing.
You can leave the stock 4G69 electric motor installed for the time being in the housing and drop in the 4b11 intermediate gear so now you will have the electric motor the intermediate gear and the Spindle all installed and the butterfly installed as well.
 
Ok very careful and put the black TPS cover back on so everything is all lined up and now you can put the torx security screws back in and go connect it to the lancer and see what happens.(if it all works well you can remove it and use a bit of pink Loctite on the screws)
Disconnect the negative of the battery and flick the headlights on to drain the power while you remove the old TB from the lancer and install your modified 4G69.
Once the TB is in flick the headlights off and reconnect the batteries negative terminal and put the OBD2 tool in the car so you can see what the car is doing and turn the car on. Before you turn the car on make sure you have the lights and air conditioning and everything else turned off.
Now start it.
One of two things will happen and this depends on what your going to do next.

If the car started and is idling like it usually does say around 1500rpm and as the engine warms up the rpms are slowly dropping and everything is ok and no error that's great.
When the car reaches normal operation temp of 85 degree Celcius flick on the air con and lights and rpm should come back to about 750rpm or so.
If your all looking good shut everything down. Remove negative from battery and remove the TB and mount the wine bottle cap on where you removed the Welsh plug.
Trim the Welsh plug down a bit so it fits snugly.while it's on there run some silicon sealant round the outside a bit to keep the dust entering the cap and getting into jam up the spindle.
Once it's sealed up remount it to vehicle and take it for a drive and double check it all ok.
Don't go too far from home and take it easy.
It might throw a fault code.

If you new conversion TB is giving fault codes read on.

there can be a few reasons for this.
you may need to swap out the dc electric motor and use the stock 4b11 motor. This is doable . it will take a few hours. You need to unscrew the two screws holding in the DC motor. Be very careful. There is a spring under it that is very stiff. Once you have the screws out you will no doubt need to file the 4b11 mount screws out to make it fit the 4G69. If you use a rat tail file to enlarge the Mount holes in the motor don't be surprise if it takes an hour or two to make it fit.
Be very careful. The two pins on the motor must line up exact with the Mount on the TPS cover and get power.
Now put it all back together and test it again.
If it works remove it and put the wine bottle cover over where the welsh plug was and some silicon sealant that is heat resistance and put it back in the car again and if all OK and no errors then you are done.
Enjoy .
Talk to Merlin and get the ecu tuned up next to make the most of it. ( merlin.tuning@gmail.com )

If you still getting errors go back and double check everything on the tb. Make sure the butterfly not bent. Make sure the spring is not over tension. Make sure you used the 4b11 spindle and not the 4g69 spindle. Make sure you used the 4g69 butterfly and not the 4b11.

Also if you have a 2008 CJ apparently you don't need to do any of this and can just bolt the untouched 4G69 straight on with the negative disconnected and it should work.
Notice I said should. Not will.
I haven't seen it with my own eyes so I can't confirm it.

And if you still getting errors you can take your stock spare 4b11 throttle body and get it bored out and reassembly it from all the 4b11 parts you put in the separate ice cream container we spoke of earlier and put it back in the lancer and run it.

At the end of the day you should have a bigger diameters bore throttle body attached to your car and give you more power and not necessarily better fuel economy.

Its not easy.
It does work.
I have done it.
It is time consuming.
It is frustrating.
It is absolutely worth all the efforts.
Once its done its done.

I will include below a number if Link's for you to peruse and learn from so you can do this yourself. Remember I told you at the start is is not a proper full on how to guide.

Enjoy the extra power from your car. Enjoy the sounds it makes when you stand on the throttle. It makes a very nice deep roar.

This is Bumblebee in Australia with all Aussies who helped out.
, saying thanks for your time.
If you get in touch with Merlin via PM we may be able to assist you to make this all happen if you send us your throttle bodies . we make no promises it will work.
I have made one that work's.
I have made a second that isn't working.
And I'm still trying to figure it out why not.
I have given you all I know.

Oh yeah. One final thing.to make the stock air hose fit the bigger 4G69 tb I found it easier to get a turbo air hose adaptor.

The air hose adaptor you want is about 3 inches long and the size is 2.25 inch to 2.75 inch adaptor.
You will see it in the photo's.
Peace out people.
Enjoy the new ride


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You can get the air hose adaptor (it was designed for turbochargers) from Autobarn or supercheap auto or eBay .the one on eBay comes with hose clamps
 
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