4G93 into Mirage

V3N0M

V3N0M

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Hey Guys
So I know what you are thinking "this has been covered a bajillion times man" and you're right but what I want to do here is create something solid
A for sure yes you need that no you don't need that

Long story short the Prancer has met the end of it's life and there is just no point in spending anymore money on it, interior is rooted, bent bits here and there for an accident from the previous owner.

What we are attempting here is swapping the 1.8, box and all the goodies that I had in my sedan to the mighty rage box. What I need from you awesome people is a definitive list of everything I need to move across because I am getting conflicting information throughout the interwebs and even on these here forums. First piece of conflicting info is whether or not I need the wiring looms from the prancer.

So lancer pros and gurus
What do I actually need from my car to make my rage box a success?
 
You've got a running donor car, so your off to the best of starts.

As for that last post, it doesn't really mean much. I've seen a few others converted and they did not change the front loom. Was just the passenger side loom that went to the ECU. You only need to change the front loom if you want foglights, but not essential for the engine change. If you've got a few extra hours you can always swap those too.

At the day of the day, you have a donor car, Swapping factory parts for factory parts.
You can make it a seamless install just like it was meant to be from the factory... If it were an option. Should have been IMO!
And don't get rid of the donor till your running, driving and happy. I've seen that mistake happen a couple of times...
 
ARC said:
You've got a running donor car, so your off to the best of starts.

As for that last post, it doesn't really mean much. I've seen a few others converted and they did not change the front loom. Was just the passenger side loom that went to the ECU. You only need to change the front loom if you want foglights, but not essential for the engine change. If you've got a few extra hours you can always swap those too.

At the day of the day, you have a donor car, Swapping factory parts for factory parts.
You can make it a seamless install just like it was meant to be from the factory... If it were an option. Should have been IMO!
And don't get rid of the donor till your running, driving and happy. I've seen that mistake happen a couple of times...
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I have dodgey aftermarket foggies for maximum JDM respect
I plan to keep the donor right until I am single camming into the sunset
Also plan to swap the sedan front end onto the rager too
ARC can I ask where you got that sig from too? I kinda want me an 8 bit rager
 
The sig is a bitza with some photoshop.
The car bit I probably have on my PC somewhere, but a lightning strike killed the motherboard so I can't be of much help in that regard :expressionless:
I only remember it took forever to find it.
 
ARC said:
The sig is a bitza with some photoshop.
The car bit I probably have on my PC somewhere, but a lightning strike killed the motherboard so I can't be of much help in that regard :expressionless:
I only remember it took forever to find it.
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Noted good sir
Also
The friend who is helping me is shuddering at doing loom relocation, the 4g15 ecu wouldn't run a 4g93 correct?
 
V3N0M said:
Noted good sir
Also
The friend who is helping me is shuddering at doing loom relocation, the 4g15 ecu wouldn't run a 4g93 correct?
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No, not at all. 4g93 ECU for a 4G93. Remember, swapping it all over.

Why not just keep the loom attached to the engine? pull it through the fire wall and tuck it to one side.
Yank the engine, box and loom out with it all together in one hit. then plug n play on the other side.
I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure thats what we did with mine... The memory is foggy a few years later.
 
ARC said:
No, not at all. 4g93 ECU for a 4G93. Remember, swapping it all over.

Why not just keep the loom attached to the engine? pull it through the fire wall and tuck it to one side.
Yank the engine, box and loom out with it all together in one hit. then plug n play on the other side.
I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure thats what we did with mine... The memory is foggy a few years later.
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More of an expert then me in these mitsi things
I shall try and see how it all goes.
Bloody hard to find a mirage within my super limited budget apparently
 
I've been looking for one too, the Mrs said I could do one for track use only.
Hard to find a $500 white mirage with a good straight solid body... :neutral:
 
ARC said:
I've been looking for one too, the Mrs said I could do one for track use only.
Hard to find a $500 white mirage with a good straight solid body... :neutral:
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I went and looked at one last night
Body was ok, interior was ok
Looked like it had been abused to hell underneath Brake Fluid,Coolant, Motor and Box oil every where underneath
I got them down to 400 delivered

You're a Vic boy arn't ya ?
 
Your 1.8 swap is easy. Unplug engine loom and ecu, pull motor out, motor in, plug loom and ecu in. The rest is fiddly little ce crap
 
Yeah it's a really easy swap. Engine loom has to stay the same as the car it came from and plugged into its own computer. Otherwise you're fairly trouble free, except you might want to make sure the AIRCON is the same. I had to use all of the aircon components out of the 1.8 car as they were different - I think there have been like 10 different types/combinations. documented as they were dealer fit.
Look at pipe routing, and most importantly where the aircon plugs into the firewall
 
Hugh-CE said:
Yeah it's a really easy swap. Engine loom has to stay the same as the car it came from and plugged into its own computer. Otherwise you're fairly trouble free, except you might want to make sure the AIRCON is the same. I had to use all of the aircon components out of the 1.8 car as they were different - I think there have been like 10 different types/combinations. documented as they were dealer fit.
Look at pipe routing, and most importantly where the aircon plugs into the firewall
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There is no aircon in my sedan so there won't be in the rage haha

Any word on the need for a LA1/LA2 mod plate?
 
Technically yes you need it mod plated for a rage but not a coupe or sedan. Doubt any cops would know the *fudge*ing diff or even care but talk to John if you want a mod plate.
 
In Melb you can walk into VicRoads (RTA) and say it's a standard variant as the chassis is the same. Donki had no trouble at all
 
I wasnt going to get an LA1 either just logde a new engine number. See if they pull you up on it.
 
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